While we trace from their grandson Yankiel/Joseph Kelner, we welcome contact from any 'Kelner' with ancestry in the Lublin region. Based on shared family knowledge and the Jewish Genealogy website I believe the following.... corrections and additions are welcome...
Updated April 2019
Sometime in the middle 1700s there lived a man named Wolf was born, perhaps in Lublin but if not definitely in a
nearby area. There is no way of knowing if he used a surname. He is married to Ester (b 1756 to Chana & Layzor, d 1831, Lublin) We don't know about other children but some time between 1776 & 1784 they had a son called Lazor. They had at least 2 children. One was Chaia/Chana born about 1806, (7 January 1828 m Mortek Eychenbaum). Another son David was born in 1817 ( d 1838). However Sara died - perhaps in childbirth with David, as by 1819 Lazor has a new daughter Faiga (d 1829) with a different wife Golda Etta (her parents were Zysla & Yankiel Burak). By 1826 Lazor is using the surname Kelner/Kielner. He and Golda now have an addition son Wolf Joseph (m 1849 to Cryla Zygielwax, d 1887). Also Mendel (m 1851 to Ewa Rosenbuch). Another child Judka Hersz dies aged 10 months. More children follow:-
1827 b Zysla (m 1846 to Szyia Cukerman)
1829 b Szandla Rayza/Baszia (m 1849 to Izrael Graff)
1832 d Ester - 6 weeks
1833 b YACCOV/JANKIEL (1852 m Sura Milka)
1835 b 9 Feb- Fayga Malka (m 1852 Szloma Zelman Goldsztejn))
1838 d Laia - 3 months
1840 b Rywka Bajla (d 1842)
Deaths for Lazor recorded as 1847 and Golda 1859
Now picking up the story of Yaccov/Jankiel & Sura Malka (daughter of Szmul Lejzor & Chana Sytman) married 1852
1853 b Perla (m 1872 Abram Gertler)
1856 b Lejzor (m 1877 Laia Szandla Piontkowska)
1859 b Chaim Ejdela/Gedala (d1860)
1861 b Hersz (?d 1861)
1863 b JOSEPH (1886 m Maryia Elka daughter of parents Szojel & Chaia Eta Zylber/Zylberwajc )
1866 born Icek Mayer d 1869
1870 b Dwojra Ruchla (m 1889 Josif Kapelusznik)
1873 b & d Chawa
1876 b Motel (d 1908)
Jankiel died in 1888. Sura Malka died by 1906
Now the story of Joseph and Marmu/Maryia Elka (Zylber) married 1886
1886 b Tova Golda d 1887
1889 b Bajla Zlata m Hershel Szlakman. She was already a widow in 1930. Had one son- both died in the
Holocaust…. Where there other children?
1891 b 24 Jan Rojza Perla (known as Pearl) married Issac Redelman
Migrated to Australia in 1930, d Dec 31 1980. 4 children Sally
Stone (b 1920 d Jerusalem Dec 08), Dora Chester (b 1922) (now
lives in Adelaide), Shya Redelman (b 1924 d 24 Jan 2014
Sydney) & Bell Cooper (b 1926 d Melbourne 26 April 2004). April 2019 - 10 grand children, 23 g grand,19 g g grand
1895 b unnamed d at birth
1897 b Zysla/Cecile m Pesach Blatman 1924
Migrated to Argentina, d 16 July 1943: Children Sara (d 2008),
Marie, Moshe (d?)… Sarah’s daughter Leah/Lilly lived for a while
in Israel before returning to Argentina. Her daughter Lorena still
lives in Israel. WOULD LOVE MORE CONTACT
1897 b Jakow Szojel Yankel m Ruchla Gibertz d with family WW2
He was a member of the Lublin Jewish council - see Note 1.
1899 b Chaim Rafail d 1899
1901 b Zudick/ Charles, m 1922 in NY to Pauline/Pearl Furer (also from
Lublin). Zudick named after Reb Zadok Hacohen of Lublin who
died the day before his bris (source Alan Stone). Children Jack b
1923, d 1993?, Sam b 1925, Muriel b 1934 d 2016. April 2019- 6 grandchildren, 12? G grand, at least 3 gg Grand
1902 b Malka d 1918
1908 born Sara Milka married Ben(Benjamin) Trachtenberg 193?. Herman (b 1936) The family migrated to Australia in Feb 1939. Returned to Poland 1949, then migrated to Israel 1957. Sara Milka
d 1996 Peta Tikvah 1996. Herman now called Zvi Harel. April 2019 - 3 grand children & 6 g grand. (Our photo comes from Zvi Harel. who believes this is Jankiel Kelner. Others dispute this & believe it's more likely his son Yosef)
NOTE ONE: Yankiel Kelner: Yad-VaShem: http://www1.yadvashem.org/about_holocaust/index_about_holocaust.html Document 121 (Protocol Judenrat meeting March 31, 1942) where Kelner is in charge of Registration and Information. During a visit in Lublin (1998) Zvi heard that he was shot in Majdan Tatarski later that year. (There is a testimonial at Yad VaShem which says he died 1941 Majdanek – but that doesn’t check out. NOTE TWO
Joseph Kelner was at one stage a water carrier. He later apparently had a fuel (naphta) depot on Bernadynska Street- Opposite a Brewery (no longer there. They lived in a flat at Rynek 5. Bell Cooper (nee Redelman) left Lublin at age 3. She often mentioned her only memory from her Lublin home was the smell of petrol from a petrol pump. I don’t think she realised this was her grandfathers business. (Andrea)
NOTE THREE
Rynek street, where the family lived in Lublin…...
The houses and street where the much of the family lived close to each other, are still there. Shya Redelman and Zvi Harel both visited in the 1990s and have photos. Miriam Syber visited in mid 2007 and Moishe Syber in 2009 (grandchildren of Bell) HAS ANYONE ELSE VISITED???? New information from the 1839 Lublin Residents Book has the family living in House no 226- address to be identified.
